The Slam Dunk Show

**AhmedBahgat** · Last edited by AhmedBahgat on Sat 14 Jul, 2012 7:05 pm; edited 3 times in total

Ahmed chose to reply to the filthy sharmoot traitor and fake muslim, debunked

**AhmedBahgat** · Last edited by AhmedBahgat on Sat 14 Jul, 2012 7:21 pm; edited 4 times in total

Let me slam the arse of dedunked one more time, and possibly one later:

If you have read the argument between myself and that ignorant piece of traitor trash dedunked, you should have known that he is lying when he said that Shihab is interchanged with Kawkab and Nijm

His only evidence was nothing but his whorey wishful thinking that back then the Arabs were uneducated and did not know the difference between the 3 objects (Meteor, Star and Planet) so they were freely interchanging the 3 words between them. Yet I made his perverted wishful thinking to be true and agreed that fine all the fukin Arabs back then were a bunch of uneducated bums who knew not the difference and interchanged the words. But again, it was not the Arabs who wrote the Quran and certainly the pervert who claim to believe in the Quran should concede that Allah knows the difference between the 3 objects and He cannot be confused like debunked's Arab pals, And because Allah is the author of the Quran, then the three words in there must mean what we know them now, sounds like another proof that the Quran is for all generations. Anyway, male prostitute debunked tried to fool the ignorant kafirs on FFI led by ugly bin lyin and brought verse 27:7 while highlighting one word Shihab as the one to mean flame, while the matter of the fact that it was two words next to each other شهاب قبس, Shihab Qabas that suppose to mean Flame, the word Shihab that he highlighted to fool the ignorant can never mean Flame on its own, rather it has to be used as an adjective or Mudaf to MudaF ilayhi to mean burning in conjunction with another word to refer to that which is burning.

If the word is used alone as an indepnedant noun and not as an adjective, THEN IT MUST MEAN METEOR

Let me bring Quran verse 20:10 in here which is talking about the same incident verse 27:7 talked about:

إِذْ رَأَىٰ نَارًا فَقَالَ لِأَهْلِهِ امْكُثُوا إِنِّي آنَسْتُ نَارًا لَعَلِّي آتِيكُمْ مِنْهَا بِقَبَسٍ أَوْ أَجِدُ عَلَى النَّارِ هُدًى (10)
When he saw a fire, so he said to his family: Stay (here), indeed, I have seen a fire, perhaps I may bring to you from it a torch or find at the fire guidance.
[Al Quran ; 20:10]

-> See what Musa said in here: ِقَبَس, Qabas, i.e. Flame or Torch, we do not read the adjective or Mudaf word Shihab in here to describe the flame that it is burning, i.e. Shihab on its own cannot be used to mean Flame, rather to mean Meteor, as seen in the next obvious verse:

وَأَنَّا لَمَسْنَا السَّمَاءَ فَوَجَدْنَاهَا مُلِئَتْ حَرَسًا شَدِيدًا وَشُهُبًا (8)
And indeed, we touched the sky but we found it filled with strong guards and meteors.
[Al Quran ; 72:8]

-> See what Allah is telling us what the Jinn said when they discovered the method of protection for the heaven: مُلِئَتْ حَرَسًا شَدِيدًا وَشُهُبًا, Mulua'at Harasa Shadida Wa SHUHUBA, i.e. filled with strong guards and METEORS.

And here is what Google translate stated regarding the exact word Shuhuba used in 72:8

Shuhub = Meteors

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**AhmedBahgat** · Last edited by AhmedBahgat on Sat 14 Jul, 2012 7:22 pm; edited 1 time in total

Salam all

Time to slam pervert debunked again. The pervert said the following:

**AhmedBahgat**

What should also slam such pervert of confused ex-apostate and fake muslim debunked of FFI is the following fact:

The most two obvious decorations in the sky are:

1- The Moon
2- The Sun

And of course everyone knows that the Moon cannot be a star nor a meteor, i.e. it cannot be a lamp, therefore the moon as one of the main highlights of the sky must fall under this verse:

إِنَّا زَيَّنَّا السَّمَاءَ الدُّنْيَا بِزِينَةٍ الْكَوَاكِبِ (6)
Indeed, We have decorated the lowest sky with the adornment of the planets.
[Al Quran ; 37:6]

Had the quran not mentioned the planets which cover moons as a decoration for the sky, we would certainly have a problem

In addition to that both the sun which is a star and the moon which can be considered a planet, are expliciltly highlighted using the metaphor of a lamp for the sun, and just stating that the moon is illiminated:

وَجَعَلَ الْقَمَرَ فِيهِنَّ نُورًا وَجَعَلَ الشَّمْسَ سِرَاجًا (16)
And He made the moon therein a light and made the sun a lamp.
[Al Quran ; 71:16]

-> See how accurate the Quran words are: جَعَلَ الْقَمَرَ فِيهِنَّ نُورًا وَجَعَلَ الشَّمْسَ سِرَاجًا, He made the moon therein (in the heaven) a light and made the sun a lamp.

How compelling.

**AhmedBahgat**

Salam all

skynightblaze of FFI said:

One thing is sure that the verses you quoted clearly contradict the claim that Allah is all knowing.You cannot deny that. Your question does stand valid . Now to answer this question of yours as to how an author could contradict himself at this point when after every page he is uttering the same claim that "Allah is all knowing" one has to look at the context of the verse. Here the rules of the game are changed and bent as and when required by Muhhamad. These verses are talking about battle of Badr when the meccans stormed with a huge army to defeat Muhhamad. Now the believers were pretty scared and Muhhamad had to encourage them .

The initial claim made by Muhhamad/Allah seems to be that 1 muslim can kill 10 pagans but it seemed rather difficult during the battle of badr so the claim gets changed to 1 muslim to fight 2 pagans. So you see this crafty gentlemen whom you call a prophet was indeed very cunning. He changed what Allah said because he knew that the previously uttered statement was stupid and not practical.Also note that this could have had an impact on the moral of the believers who were fighting So the claim gets changed but I guess in the process he had to contradict his claim of Allah being All knowing.In short I see that Muhhamad was forced to utter this but at the cost of contradicting the claim of Allah being an all knowing GOd. This would answer your question.

I think this is the only plausible explanation as to why we see a contradiction here despite quran repeating itself a no of times about Allah being an All knowing God.I dont know whether you would believe this because you dont even believe to start with that Muhhamad was a liar.
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Ahmed says:

Let me teach you something new kid, so I can put this thread to bed, as well teach everyone on this thread the same lesson. What you are about to hear is only said by a few who know the Arabic language A to Z along with knowing the Quran very well.

I believe most Arabs misread (mispronounce) the Arabic word: يعلم , four letters as follow: ي ع ل م , Y A L M, which can be read in many ways using different diacritical marks, as follow:
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1- With a Fatiha on the first letter ي so it is pronounced Ya, and a Sikoon on the second letter ع so it is pronounced A, and a Fatiha on the third letter ل so it is pronounced La, and a Fatiha on the fourth letter م so it is pronounced Ma

i.e. Ya A La Ma, which is a present verb to mean: To know
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2- With a Dummah on the first letter ي so it is pronounced Yo, and a Fatiha on the second letter ع so it is pronounced Aa, and a Shuddah + Kasirah on the third letter ل so it is pronounced LLi, and a Fatiha on the fourth letter م so it is pronounced Ma

i.e. Yo Aa LLi Ma, which is a present verb to mean: To mark, or To flag, or To make evident
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3- With a Dummah on the first letter ي so it is pronounced Yo, and a Fatiha on the second letter ع so it is pronounced Aa, and a Shuddah + Fatiha on the third letter ل so it is pronounced LLa, and a Fatiha on the fourth letter م so it is pronounced Ma

i.e. Yo Aa LLa Ma, which is a present verb to mean: to teach
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Therefore with the second meaning (same letters but different pronunciation), the Quran verses mean, that Allah will flag, or mark, or make evident all believers and unbelievers

See this verse which is using the word عَلَامَاتٍ , Aalamat which is a plural noun to mean Marks, derived from the verb: يعلم , YoAaLLiMa, which is a present verb to mean: To mark, or To flag, or To make evident

وَعَلَامَاتٍ ۚ وَبِالنَّجْمِ هُمْ يَهْتَدُونَ (16)
And marks; and by the stars they seek guidance.
[Al Quran ; 16:16]

Take the above to the best Arabic professor on the planet and let him mother slam dunk you too. This should send all the ignorant on this thread to the nearest desert to burry their pinheads for good: